Correctly using net rating, understanding DeMar DeRozan, and analytics in Ultimate Frisbee

Seth Partnow joins the latest episode of Fastbreak Breakfast to talk analytics, DeMar DeRozan, and Ultimate Frisbee.

Emerge from your Last Dance hangover for a hot serving of Fastbreak Breakfast because not every podcast has to be about Michael Jordan or guessing if and when the season might restart.

(Although if you need a Last Dance podcast, Over and Back has you covered.)

Seth Partnow (@sethpartnow), NBA analyst for The Athletic and former director of basketball research for the Bucks, joins for a discussion about the misuse of statistics by fans and podcasters (other podcasters, not this podcaster). Also, the conversation goes deeply into Ultimate Frisbee (or, just “ultimate” if you demand), so buckle up for that part.

Among the non-frisbee topics covered:

  • What are the biggest drawbacks and misconceptions to net rating, on/off rating, and lineup data?
  • Who are some players who might deserve larger roles, based on their statistical profiles?
  • Do NBA teams use the same lineup data (, Cleaning the Glass) that fans and bloggers have access to?
  • What’s the deal with DeMar DeRozan and on/off rating always hating him? He shot an eye-popping 52.6 percent on field goals this season, are the Spurs truly better off without him?
  • Are there any statistics to avoid?
  • When does spectacular play equal bad play?

Fastbreak Breakfast is a podcast for serious NBA fans that is incredibly not serious. All episodes are available on Apple Podcasts and Soundcloud or any other major podcast service.

Music provided courtesy of New Man and Codaphonic.

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